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destrockqc Golden King
Mensagens : 152 Reputação : 3 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-30 Idade : 39 Localização : Sherbrooke, Quebec
| Subject: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:58 am | |
| im playing low fps since 1.64
duel should be 5 min not 10. its not fun
there is too many unit to the team2 spot (midle right corner for lv 1-20). with the new respawn cooldown they respawn too fast and make gold too easily. | |
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scaler Golden King
Mensagens : 154 Reputação : 10 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-18 Idade : 37 Localização : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:41 am | |
| Do you mean you are experiencing low fps since ver 1.64? As for duel i guess Youkaiz need more feedback on that(matter is up to him to decide) in my opinion if duels are too frequent, newbs will leave game faster. | |
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destrockqc Golden King
Mensagens : 152 Reputação : 3 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-30 Idade : 39 Localização : Sherbrooke, Quebec
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:07 am | |
| yes i mean my fps are droping
about the duel 5 min HELP the newbie. they see they are not playing right and they want to know how we play the game
if they are too dump to learn we dont need them lol | |
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wsensor Furbolg
Mensagens : 27 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-25
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 4:54 pm | |
| Youkai could put in a duel timer command for the host to set... if not changed it stays at whatever the default is | |
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xWill Golden King
Mensagens : 164 Reputação : 1 Data de inscrição : 2008-09-07 Localização : In a place, in a city,in a estate,in a country ,in a continent, in the world, somewhere in the universe near the black infinity.
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:33 pm | |
| what about a team duel ?>.< when the duel time ends open a voting window | |
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destrockqc Golden King
Mensagens : 152 Reputação : 3 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-30 Idade : 39 Localização : Sherbrooke, Quebec
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:39 pm | |
| a team duel would be fun but we need a bigger area because some magic can 1 shot the entire team lol
maybe 1 elimination like hockey playoff. 1v1 1v1 1v1 1v1 1v1 1v1 winner of each 1v1 1v1 1v1 winer of each 1v1 1v1 and 1v1. each win remove 1 life to enemy and the last remove 10 more life | |
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virus13a Naga Myrmidon
Mensagens : 64 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-01-11 Idade : 34 Localização : Ukraine, Crimea, Yalta
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:24 pm | |
| youkaiz. i just end play with brazil friends (lol) & found one bug: When enemy chose First God & tp anywhere his hero stopped on place & he cann`t control hero. mb it is about your fix of ultimate magic?? | |
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maxerek Naga Myrmidon
Mensagens : 64 Reputação : 6 Data de inscrição : 2008-10-23 Idade : 35 Localização : Poland/England
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:25 pm | |
| Team duels! I want them! Great idea, but needs to be implemented carefully, 3v3 would be good enough imo, and not every time but like every 3rd duel | |
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virus13a Naga Myrmidon
Mensagens : 64 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-01-11 Idade : 34 Localização : Ukraine, Crimea, Yalta
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:44 pm | |
| I am against the team duels, as well as the many heroes have magic of mass destruction, which can easily kill the whole team, that is youkaiz will transform all existing magic | |
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youkaiz Chaos
Mensagens : 478 Reputação : 4 Data de inscrição : 2008-08-18 Idade : 36 Localização : Paraná, Brasil
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:09 pm | |
| i know about it.. because this i make the -lord(like as suicide). | |
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iamtwon Bandit Lord
Mensagens : 18 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-02-03 Idade : 36 Localização : Nashville, TN USA
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:49 pm | |
| +1 Duel Timer +1 First Lord not being able to move constantly +1 Team Duel every other duel or so, that would be COOL Ulfsaar, Luna, And any other mass magic heroes NERF. If I happen to random one of these heroes the other team leaves because I can solo Skeletons @ 15 minutes. Beautiful Cam Options, TY for dividing platinum and gold coin random drops. I have a question... What is the drop % on Dark, Frost, and Gold Blade?Increase cost of Gem Recipe to 600? Increase cost of Burning Shield to 8,500? Increase cost of Staffs to 4,000? Double the Bounty gold for killing? Make Rockets useful (this is a very fun thing lets make the best out of it)? Make Warrior Set Useful? Make Brilliance Aura (Mana Aura) and Mana Stone (The green tooltip) Useful? Reduce the % heal on Healing Wards to 5%? Stats are way to good for the price right now. It makes all of the other fun items useless. If smart players are playing the game, they know this. Why offer items that no one will get? Lets bring back warrior sets and rockets! Angel element is not good, but it's deceptive because everyone insists on getting them! Let me know if any of this does not make sense and I will state my case and reasoning. Thank you so much for reading and take care! Bravo Youkaiz! - scaler wrote:
- Do you mean you are experiencing low fps since ver 1.64?
As for duel i guess Youkaiz need more feedback on that(matter is up to him to decide) in my opinion if duels are too frequent, newbs will leave game faster. Sorry for double post, but this is an excellent point. If duels are too frequent, the reasoning is, there's no way to come back against the winning team, and for people just learning the game (which 90% of my joiners are just starting) it makes it very difficult to have a gg because they leave. One thing that I will start doing, and if you host public games I suggest you do the same; Within WC3 Banlist, there is a feature for a macro bound to an F key that will post a message in game. I am posting tips with these macros on how to play the game, during the game I am playing. This could be an excellent feature to add in the game by Youkiaz, not to be on by default but typing -tips for example would turn the in game tips on. In the mean time, help out the newbs and continue to expand the popularity of the map! Once again, thank you for reading. | |
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youkaiz Chaos
Mensagens : 478 Reputação : 4 Data de inscrição : 2008-08-18 Idade : 36 Localização : Paraná, Brasil
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:26 pm | |
| hmm.
ncrease cost of Gem Recipe to 600? yes Increase cost of Burning Shield to 8,500? to 7500 Increase cost of Staffs to 4,000? yes Double the Bounty gold for killing? (50x hero lvl players) (200x hero lvl bosses) Make Rockets useful (this is a very fun thing lets make the best out of it)? (???) Make Warrior Set Useful? (???) Make Brilliance Aura (Mana Aura) and Mana Stone (The green tooltip) Useful? Reduce the % heal on Healing Wards to 5%? (yes and more duration and now can destroy) | |
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iamtwon Bandit Lord
Mensagens : 18 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-02-03 Idade : 36 Localização : Nashville, TN USA
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:32 pm | |
| - youkaiz wrote:
- Make Rockets useful (this is a very fun thing lets make the best out of it)? (???)
I guess lowering the cost would be the answer to this one. I never see anyone getting rockets any more, probably because to be truly effective, you have to get more than one of them. Money is better spent on other things. Reducing the cost of rockets or decreasing the cooldown time on them would make them a more viable option for early, mid, and even late game. - youkaiz wrote:
- Make Warrior Set Useful? (???)
Warrior set needs to be upgradeable as the gem is. Maybe more bonuses when you buy the recipe. Either gems need to be more expensive (and maybe even more than 600 gem recipe) or warrior set needs some hefty upgrades, like a recipe that can be bought 5 or 10 times for example. How exciting would that be?! Basically stats are still king by a whole lot! By decreasing the +stats per item or increasing the cost as you have mentioned, this will open opportunities to buy the other items, like rockets warrior sets, heals, wyrmskull shield, angel element, etc. - youkaiz wrote:
- Make Brilliance Aura (Mana Aura) and Mana Stone (The green tooltip) Useful?
These items cannot keep up with the high cost mana many skills require. When you are paying this amount of gold for an item, it needs to be able to keep up with the high mana cost of level 9 skills and level 3 ultimates. This is a late game issue only. Maybe 200 Mana/Sec for Aura and 3.5x for Other one The hotkey for Healing Ward isn't working properly. It is Z, it should be X. | |
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youkaiz Chaos
Mensagens : 478 Reputação : 4 Data de inscrição : 2008-08-18 Idade : 36 Localização : Paraná, Brasil
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:14 pm | |
| Fix healing Ward Hotkey I think the rockets is usefull =/ Warrior's set don't need recipe is auto fusion, but now with gem price increased the warrior's set is more useful.
i'll remake magic stones. | |
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destrockqc Golden King
Mensagens : 152 Reputação : 3 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-30 Idade : 39 Localização : Sherbrooke, Quebec
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:32 pm | |
| iamtwon are you saying the stats need to cost more than 250 gold each ? are you crazy lol ? - Quote :
- Stats are way to good for the price right now. It makes all of the other fun items useless.
wtf i never buy tome i dont have the money for that omg they should cost 150 maybe 100 each its a lot better having 2 celestial set (for the maximum mana and regen mana) + attack speed and attack damage with the critical strike item than having + 500 in agility only lol question about wc3banlist : EUH f bind macro EUH where where where ! where in the program ? in the phrase section ? how ? EUH | |
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iamtwon Bandit Lord
Mensagens : 18 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-02-03 Idade : 36 Localização : Nashville, TN USA
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:58 pm | |
| If I were talking about tomes, I would have said tomes... Stats = +# to all stat Items including Gems, Staffs, Celestial Sets, God's Diamond etc. You said you never buy tomes? Then you'd never be able to beat me Tomes are the late game answer to the "who's going to win" question! Personally, I trash my single celestial after killing shadow at lvl 75+ with a god hero this is if I am not forced to get Cloak because of harassers. Before that I usually buy about 300 agil and the rest in Str (only after selecting my final hero). Tomes seem like a good price to me. How to make custom comment macros in WC3BL:-Go to Preferences tab -Go to Phrases on the left menu -Click the "+" -Add a title to this macro -Add text to be written -Right click your new macro and select an F Key to assign it Here's an example of one of my custom comments, I may make a post of all of my custom comments later tonight. Look for this on a separate thread. F5 = $shiftenter If you leave without warning, giving your items, or giving your gold (to your team) = BAN $shiftenter is one of many macros available, these are located in Preferences ---> Custom Comments. very useful! | |
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scaler Golden King
Mensagens : 154 Reputação : 10 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-18 Idade : 37 Localização : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:57 am | |
| I agree with iamtwon regarding the tomes altho i haven't been trying the new versions but i was already finding the old tome prices reasonable(this opinion might be outdated). anyway, i finally re-installed my OS and got myself warcraft3 once more - iamtwon wrote:
- scaler wrote:
- As for duel i guess Youkaiz need more feedback on that(matter is up to him to decide) in my opinion if duels are too frequent, newbs will leave game faster.
Sorry for double post, but this is an excellent point. If duels are too frequent, the reasoning is, there's no way to come back against the winning team, and for people just learning the game (which 90% of my joiners are just starting) it makes it very difficult to have a gg because they leave.
Thx for the support my point is very similar although there is something i did not say about. the other team that keeps losing will lose hope and just quit game. I always had people saying this to me:"There is no point in continuing this game anymore, we can't win you anyway." This is normally said by one of the strongest players in the other team and when he leaves, so will his teammates.
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virus13a Naga Myrmidon
Mensagens : 64 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-01-11 Idade : 34 Localização : Ukraine, Crimea, Yalta
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:34 am | |
| Crystal Maiden's attack speed is very high, Given that she is intelligence based. | |
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youkaiz Chaos
Mensagens : 478 Reputação : 4 Data de inscrição : 2008-08-18 Idade : 36 Localização : Paraná, Brasil
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:22 am | |
| o.O
All heros have the same base attack time(1.7 seconds) Btw i'll see it. | |
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virus13a Naga Myrmidon
Mensagens : 64 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-01-11 Idade : 34 Localização : Ukraine, Crimea, Yalta
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:36 am | |
| when i get 3 gem of heaven(1st lvl) i was immortal | |
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iamtwon Bandit Lord
Mensagens : 18 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-02-03 Idade : 36 Localização : Nashville, TN USA
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:28 pm | |
| I almost forgot, until I played a game just now... The statue is a unit of one of the players on a team. It's red for team 1 and "?color" for team 2. When "?color" leaves the game, the statue disappears, and the deathmatch is over . Make the statue switch ownership? or make it a creep? | |
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youkaiz Chaos
Mensagens : 478 Reputação : 4 Data de inscrição : 2008-08-18 Idade : 36 Localização : Paraná, Brasil
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:49 pm | |
| yesssssss is it.....
lol i forgot about it =/ i will fix it now.... | |
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destrockqc Golden King
Mensagens : 152 Reputação : 3 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-30 Idade : 39 Localização : Sherbrooke, Quebec
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:57 pm | |
| set the statue like a mob with an average lv with the player in the game
if ppl are lv 50 the statue is lv 50 too (with enough hp and armor for counter the big item the player have at lv 50) | |
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youkaiz Chaos
Mensagens : 478 Reputação : 4 Data de inscrição : 2008-08-18 Idade : 36 Localização : Paraná, Brasil
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:00 pm | |
| No, the statue can't get stronger, it is to end game after some time. Nobody want to player 3 hours and game without end. | |
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virus13a Naga Myrmidon
Mensagens : 64 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-01-11 Idade : 34 Localização : Ukraine, Crimea, Yalta
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:06 am | |
| - youkaiz wrote:
- No, the statue can't get stronger, it is to end game after some time.
Nobody want to player 3 hours and game without end. yesterday i farm by Tech God & get 3 god's blades. i kill statue for 4 shots. i think idea of destrockqc is very interesting. | |
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destrockqc Golden King
Mensagens : 152 Reputação : 3 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-30 Idade : 39 Localização : Sherbrooke, Quebec
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:20 am | |
| yeah but youkaiz is right too.
i personally want to end the game after 1 hour. i know its not enough time to have all best item of the game but the goal is to win the game by killing the enemy team.if you play for the best item only then its like playing in single player against bot .... | |
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youkaiz Chaos
Mensagens : 478 Reputação : 4 Data de inscrição : 2008-08-18 Idade : 36 Localização : Paraná, Brasil
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Mon Mar 09, 2009 6:23 am | |
| i slow down creeps spawn(realy is too fast on 1.65). With it is more hard to kills statue. | |
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karcouri Bandit
Mensagens : 6 Reputação : 0 Data de inscrição : 2009-03-12 Idade : 40 Localização : Lyon / FRANCE
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:00 am | |
| Hi everyone. First i want to congratulate Youkaiz for his map and to thanks him for his work.
I had got this bug 2 times with the first god (Terrorblade) : somehow, after using his ultimate i found myself freezed. The hero and images attack anyones near him. Except that time, he doesn't reply : it doesn't move, i can't control him anymore. I think, when someone else come and kill him, i can re-use him...i don't know exactly the circonstances...but it's really annoying (especially knowing he is the first god).
Otherwise every other thing i saw was already reported xD | |
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scaler Golden King
Mensagens : 154 Reputação : 10 Data de inscrição : 2008-12-18 Idade : 37 Localização : Malaysia
| Subject: Re: 1.65 Sat Mar 14, 2009 2:14 pm | |
| Regrettably I would like to notify you that this is a known bug.....currently no solutions is known except for the hero dying(killed by player or by lord of arena by typing -lord) | |
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